http://www.boingboing.net/2006/03/18...cs_steali.html

Saturday, March 18, 2006
Marvel Comics: stealing our language
Marvel Comics is continuing in its bid to steal the word "super-hero" from
the public domain and put it in a lock-box to which it will control the key.
Marvel and DC comics jointly filed a trademark on the word "super-hero."
They use this mark to legally harass indie comic companies that make
competing comic books.
http://www.boingboing.net/2004/02/01...dc_claim_.html

A trademark's enforceability hinges on whether the public is likely to
associate a word or mark with a given company -- in other words, when you
hear the word "super-hero," if you think "Marvel and DC," then Marvel will
be able to go on censoring and eliminating its competition.

One way of accomplishing this dirty bit of mind-control is by adding a T
symbol after the word "Super-Hero." That TM lets the world know that you
claim ownership over the word it accompanies. If you can get other people to
do it, too, eventually you may in fact get the world to believe that the
word is your property -- and then, it becomes your property.

"Super-hero" isn't Marvel's property. They didn't invent the term. They
aren't the only users of the term. It's a public-domain word that belongs to
all of us. Adding a T to super-hero is a naked bid to steal "super-hero"
from us and claim it for their own.

The latest trick in its move to steal the word is using the T symbol in the
bumpf for its California science centre show -- they've recruited a science
museum to help them steal "super-hero."
http://www.boingboing.net/2006/03/17...superhero.html

Here's a proposal: from now on, let's never use the term "super-hero" to
describe a Marvel character. Let's call them "underwear perverts" -- as
Warren Ellis is wont to -- or vigilantes, or mutants. Let's reserve the term
"super-hero" exclusively to describe the heros of comics published by
companies that aren't crooked word-thieves.


posted by Cory Doctorow at 11:45:11 AM permalink | Other blogs' comments

"George Johnson" <matrix29@voyager.net> wrote in message
news:121r070q6qpvqb9@corp.supernews.com...
| http://www.boingboing.net/2006/03/18...cs_steali.html
|
| Saturday, March 18, 2006
| Marvel Comics: stealing our language
| Marvel Comics is continuing in its bid to steal the word "super-hero" from
| the public domain and put it in a lock-box to which it will control the
key.
| Marvel and DC comics jointly filed a trademark on the word "super-hero."
| They use this mark to legally harass indie comic companies that make
| competing comic books.
| http://www.boingboing.net/2004/02/01...dc_claim_.html
|
| A trademark's enforceability hinges on whether the public is likely to
| associate a word or mark with a given company -- in other words, when you
| hear the word "super-hero," if you think "Marvel and DC," then Marvel will
| be able to go on censoring and eliminating its competition.
|
| One way of accomplishing this dirty bit of mind-control is by adding a T
| symbol after the word "Super-Hero." That TM lets the world know that you
| claim ownership over the word it accompanies. If you can get other people
to
| do it, too, eventually you may in fact get the world to believe that the
| word is your property -- and then, it becomes your property.
|
| "Super-hero" isn't Marvel's property. They didn't invent the term. They
| aren't the only users of the term. It's a public-domain word that belongs
to
| all of us. Adding a T to super-hero is a naked bid to steal "super-hero"
| from us and claim it for their own.
|
| The latest trick in its move to steal the word is using the T symbol in
the
| bumpf for its California science centre show -- they've recruited a
science
| museum to help them steal "super-hero."
| http://www.boingboing.net/2006/03/17...superhero.html
|
| Here's a proposal: from now on, let's never use the term "super-hero" to
| describe a Marvel character. Let's call them "underwear perverts" -- as
| Warren Ellis is wont to -- or vigilantes, or mutants. Let's reserve the
term
| "super-hero" exclusively to describe the heros of comics published by
| companies that aren't crooked word-thieves.
|
|
| posted by Cory Doctorow at 11:45:11 AM permalink | Other blogs' comments


http://superhero.biography.ms/
[clipped]
Predecessors

The origins of superheroes can be found in several prior forms of fiction.
Many of their traits are shared with protagonists of later Victorian
literature, such as Arthur Conan Doyle's detective Sherlock Holmes and H.
Rider Haggard’s adventurer Alan Quatermain. The dime novel stories of
Buffalo Bill, Zorro and Tarzan also influenced superheroes. Also, the pulp
magazine crime fighters Doc Savage, The Shadow and The Spider were very
direct influences.
The rise and fall of the golden age of comic books

In 1939, Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster introduced Superman in Action Comics
#1. Although the character was preceded by the costumed crime fighter The
Phantom, featured in comic strips, Superman is considered the first
superhero, introducing many of the conventions that have come to define the
term including a secret identity, superhuman powers and a colorful costume
including a symbol and cape. His name is also the source of the term
"superhero."


DC Comics (which published under the names National and American at the
time) received an overwhelming response to Superman and, in the months that
followed, introduced Aquaman, Hawkman, The Flash, Green Lantern, Batman, his
sidekick Robin, and Wonder Woman, the first female superhero and the only
significant one for quite some time. Although, DC dominated the superhero
market at this time, Fawcett Comics rivaled their popularity with Captain
Marvel, Marvel Comics found success with the Human Torch and Sub-Mariner,
and cartoonist Will Eisner's The Spirit, a character with some superhero
trappings who appeared in a newspaper comic insert, developed a loyal
following.
[end clip]

"George Johnson" <matrix29@voyager.net> wrote in message
news:121r070q6qpvqb9@corp.supernews.com...
| http://www.boingboing.net/2006/03/18...cs_steali.html
|
| Saturday, March 18, 2006
| Marvel Comics: stealing our language
| Marvel Comics is continuing in its bid to steal the word "super-hero" from
| the public domain and put it in a lock-box to which it will control the
key.
| Marvel and DC comics jointly filed a trademark on the word "super-hero."
| They use this mark to legally harass indie comic companies that make
| competing comic books.
| http://www.boingboing.net/2004/02/01...dc_claim_.html
|
| A trademark's enforceability hinges on whether the public is likely to
| associate a word or mark with a given company -- in other words, when you
| hear the word "super-hero," if you think "Marvel and DC," then Marvel will
| be able to go on censoring and eliminating its competition.
|
| One way of accomplishing this dirty bit of mind-control is by adding a T
| symbol after the word "Super-Hero." That TM lets the world know that you
| claim ownership over the word it accompanies. If you can get other people
to
| do it, too, eventually you may in fact get the world to believe that the
| word is your property -- and then, it becomes your property.
|
| "Super-hero" isn't Marvel's property. They didn't invent the term. They
| aren't the only users of the term. It's a public-domain word that belongs
to
| all of us. Adding a T to super-hero is a naked bid to steal "super-hero"
| from us and claim it for their own.
|
| The latest trick in its move to steal the word is using the T symbol in
the
| bumpf for its California science centre show -- they've recruited a
science
| museum to help them steal "super-hero."
| http://www.boingboing.net/2006/03/17...superhero.html
|
| Here's a proposal: from now on, let's never use the term "super-hero" to
| describe a Marvel character. Let's call them "underwear perverts" -- as
| Warren Ellis is wont to -- or vigilantes, or mutants. Let's reserve the
term
| "super-hero" exclusively to describe the heros of comics published by
| companies that aren't crooked word-thieves.
|
|
| posted by Cory Doctorow at 11:45:11 AM permalink | Other blogs' comments

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_hero
Trademark status

* The terms "Super Hero" and "Super Heroes" (and by association,
"superhero"[1]) has been jointly trademarked by DC Comics and Marvel Comics
(U.S. Trademark Serial Nos. 72243225 and 73222079). However, as an attempt
to avoid the trademark, super-hero with a hyphen has sometimes been used as
a generic spelling that covers all such heroes, not simply those owned by DC
or Marvel.

Trademark Serial Nos. 72243225
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield...ate=88921m.2.1

Trademark Serial Nos. 73222079
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield...ate=88921m.3.1

* As of March 2006, DC Comics and Marvel Comics were continuing their
efforts to also trademark "super-hero"[2].

================

Trademark Law: An Overview
http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/index.php/Trademark

All About Trademarks
http://www.ggmark.com/

================

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield...ate=88921m.2.1
Typed Drawing
Word Mark SUPER HERO
Goods and Services IC 025. US 039. G & S: MASQUERADE COSTUMES. FIRST USE:
19651029. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19660304
Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING
Design Search Code
Serial Number 72243225
Filing Date April 12, 1966
Current Filing Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1A
Registration Number 0825835
Registration Date March 14, 1967
Owner (REGISTRANT) BEN COOPER, INC. CORPORATION NEW YORK 33 34TH ST.
BROOKLYN NEW YORK

(LAST LISTED OWNER) DC COMICS, INC. CORPORATION ASSIGNEE OF NEW YORK 666
FIFTH AVENUE NEW YORK NEW YORK 10103

(LAST LISTED OWNER) MARVEL ENTERTAINMENT GROUP, INC. CORPORATION ASSIGNEE OF
DELAWARE 387 PARK AVENUE SOUTH NEW YORK NEW YORK 10016
Assignment Recorded ASSIGNMENT RECORDED
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Renewal 1ST RENEWAL 19870314
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

===================

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield...ate=88921m.3.1
Typed Drawing
Word Mark SUPER HEROES
Goods and Services IC 016. US 002 005 022 023 029 037 038 050. G & S:
PUBLICATIONS, PARTICULARLY COMIC BOOKS AND MAGAZINES AND STORIES IN
ILLUSTRATED FORM [(( ; CARDBOARD STAND-UP FIGURES; PLAYING CARDS; PAPER
IRON-ON TRANSFER; ERASERS; PENCIL SHARPENERS; PENCILS; GLUE FOR OFFICE AND
HOME USE, SUCH AS IS SOLD AS STATIONERY SUPPLY;] NOTEBOOKS AND STAMP
ALBUMS )). FIRST USE: 19661000. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19661000
Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING
Design Search Code
Serial Number 73222079
Filing Date July 3, 1979
Current Filing Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1A
Published for Opposition June 9, 1981
Registration Number 1179067
Registration Date November 24, 1981
Owner (REGISTRANT) Cadence Industries Corporation a.k.a. Marvel Comics
Group and DC Comics Inc. CORPORATION DELAWARE 575 Madison Ave. New York NEW
YORK 10022

(LAST LISTED OWNER) DC COMICS PARTNERSHIP BY ASSIGNMENT NEW YORK 1700
BROADWAY NEW YORK NEW YORK 10019

(LAST LISTED OWNER) MARVEL CHARACTERS, INC. CORPORATION BY ASSIGNMENT
DELAWARE 10474 SANTA MONICA BOULEVARD SUITE 206 LOS ANGELES CALIFORNIA 90025
Assignment Recorded ASSIGNMENT RECORDED
Attorney of Record JONATHAN D. REICHMAN
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Affidavit Text SECT 15. SECT 8 (6-YR). SECTION 8(10-YR) 20020819.
Renewal 1ST RENEWAL 20020819
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

George Johnson wrote:
> http://www.boingboing.net/2006/03/18...cs_steali.html
>
> Saturday, March 18, 2006
> Marvel Comics: stealing our language
> Marvel Comics is continuing in its bid to steal the word "super-hero" from
> the public domain and put it in a lock-box to which it will control the key.
> Marvel and DC comics jointly filed a trademark on the word "super-hero."
> They use this mark to legally harass indie comic companies that make
> competing comic books.
> http://www.boingboing.net/2004/02/01...dc_claim_.html
>
> A trademark's enforceability hinges on whether the public is likely to
> associate a word or mark with a given company -- in other words, when you
> hear the word "super-hero," if you think "Marvel and DC," then Marvel will
> be able to go on censoring and eliminating its competition.
>
> One way of accomplishing this dirty bit of mind-control is by adding a T
> symbol after the word "Super-Hero." That TM lets the world know that you
> claim ownership over the word it accompanies. If you can get other people to
> do it, too, eventually you may in fact get the world to believe that the
> word is your property -- and then, it becomes your property.
>
> "Super-hero" isn't Marvel's property. They didn't invent the term. They
> aren't the only users of the term. It's a public-domain word that belongs to
> all of us. Adding a T to super-hero is a naked bid to steal "super-hero"
> from us and claim it for their own.
>
> The latest trick in its move to steal the word is using the T symbol in the
> bumpf for its California science centre show -- they've recruited a science
> museum to help them steal "super-hero."
> http://www.boingboing.net/2006/03/17...superhero.html
>
> Here's a proposal: from now on, let's never use the term "super-hero" to
> describe a Marvel character. Let's call them "underwear perverts" -- as
> Warren Ellis is wont to -- or vigilantes, or mutants. Let's reserve the term
> "super-hero" exclusively to describe the heros of comics published by
> companies that aren't crooked word-thieves.
>
>
> posted by Cory Doctorow at 11:45:11 AM permalink | Other blogs' comments

Looks like Marvel and DC are scared that they are losing control over
the market. Still, this sort of maneuvering is not at all uncommon; Sega
tried to trademark the word "hologram" in the early 1990s. Establishing
legal control over a word that has been in the public domain for years
is very difficult.
--
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"Richard Clayton" <rZIGeclaZIGyton@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:X%fTf.3007$vy.794@trnddc01...
| George Johnson wrote:
| > http://www.boingboing.net/2006/03/18...cs_steali.html
| >
| > Saturday, March 18, 2006
| > Marvel Comics: stealing our language
| > Marvel Comics is continuing in its bid to steal the word "super-hero"
from
| > the public domain and put it in a lock-box to which it will control the
key.
| > Marvel and DC comics jointly filed a trademark on the word "super-hero."
| > They use this mark to legally harass indie comic companies that make
| > competing comic books.
| > http://www.boingboing.net/2004/02/01...dc_claim_.html
| >
| > A trademark's enforceability hinges on whether the public is likely to
| > associate a word or mark with a given company -- in other words, when
you
| > hear the word "super-hero," if you think "Marvel and DC," then Marvel
will
| > be able to go on censoring and eliminating its competition.
| >
| > One way of accomplishing this dirty bit of mind-control is by adding a T
| > symbol after the word "Super-Hero." That TM lets the world know that you
| > claim ownership over the word it accompanies. If you can get other
people to
| > do it, too, eventually you may in fact get the world to believe that the
| > word is your property -- and then, it becomes your property.
| >
| > "Super-hero" isn't Marvel's property. They didn't invent the term. They
| > aren't the only users of the term. It's a public-domain word that
belongs to
| > all of us. Adding a T to super-hero is a naked bid to steal "super-hero"
| > from us and claim it for their own.
| >
| > The latest trick in its move to steal the word is using the T symbol in
the
| > bumpf for its California science centre show -- they've recruited a
science
| > museum to help them steal "super-hero."
| > http://www.boingboing.net/2006/03/17...superhero.html
| >
| > Here's a proposal: from now on, let's never use the term "super-hero" to
| > describe a Marvel character. Let's call them "underwear perverts" -- as
| > Warren Ellis is wont to -- or vigilantes, or mutants. Let's reserve the
term
| > "super-hero" exclusively to describe the heros of comics published by
| > companies that aren't crooked word-thieves.
| >
| >
| > posted by Cory Doctorow at 11:45:11 AM permalink | Other blogs' comments
|
| Looks like Marvel and DC are scared that they are losing control over
| the market. Still, this sort of maneuvering is not at all uncommon; Sega
| tried to trademark the word "hologram" in the early 1990s. Establishing
| legal control over a word that has been in the public domain for years
| is very difficult.
| --


Man and Superman
A Comedy and a Philosophy
Bernard Shaw
http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/etext02/mands10.txt
CAMBRIDGE, MASS.: THE UNIVERSITY PRESS, 1903
NEW YORK: BARTLEBY.COM, 1999

Even the Copyright & Trademark on the word "Superman" is completely and
utterly invalid.

The actions of Marvel Comics and DC Comics in this whole inane mess is
embarrassing and appalling.
Their Trademarks are also, logically and obviously *NULL & VOID*
pertaining to the rule of "Prior Usages" and "Common Generic Usages".

================

Übermensch
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9Cbermensch
In Thus Spoke Zarathustra (in German, Also sprach Zarathustra), the German
philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche argues that a man can become an Übermensch
(help·info) (homo superior; the common equivalent English translation would
be 'super-human'; see below) through the following steps:

1. By his will to power, manifested destructively in the rejection of,
and rebellion against, societal ideals and moral codes;
2. By his will to power, manifested creatively in overcoming nihilism and
re-evaluating old ideals or creating new ones.
3. By a continual process of self-overcoming.

The Übermensch was contrasted by Nietzsche with the exemplar of the Last
Man, who is the antithesis of the Übermensch. Whereas Nietzsche considered
there to be no examples of an Übermensch in his time, he declared there were
many examples of Last Men.

[skipping down]

Misleading translation

The translation of Übermensch as "superman" may compound the misconception.
Über can have a variety of meanings, as in Überwindung ("overcoming"),
überstehen/durchstehen ("come through"/"get over"), übersetzen
("translate"/"take across"). Some scholars therefore prefer the translation
as Overman, since the point of the Übermensch is that man needs to overcome
himself.

The German adverb "übermenschlich" is common and used in contexts such as
"mit übermenschlichen Kräften gelang es ihm…": "with a force no human being
is capable of he managed to…" or "with superhuman force…", the connotation
is that of leaving the human sphere. Parallel constructions can be found in
übernatürlich ("no longer natural", "transcendental"), überirdisch
("heavenly", literally "unearthly"). "Superman" lacks the German connotation
of a sphere beyond human knowledge and power. In addition, Mensch is less
specifically male than the English man, closer at times to the English
human. Mensch is to be understood as a neuter form of a noun.

==================

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thus_Spoke_Zarathustra
Thus Spoke Zarathustra
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search

This article is about the book by Friedrich Nietzsche. For the symphonic
poem by Richard Strauss, please see Also sprach Zarathustra (Strauss). For
the oil painting cycle by Lena Hades, please see Lena Hades.

The cover for the first part of the first edition.
Enlarge
The cover for the first part of the first edition.

Thus Spoke Zarathustra: A Book for All and None is a book written during the
1880s by the German philosopher, Friedrich Nietzsche. Hard to categorise,
the work is a treatise on existential philosophy, a masterly work of
literature, in parts a collection of poetry and in others a parody of and
amendment to the Bible. Consisting largely of speeches by the book's hero,
prophet Zarathustra, the work's content extends across a mass of styles and
subject matter. Nietzsche himself described the work as 'the deepest ever
written'.

http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/1998
External links
* Free eBook Thus Spake Zarathustra at Project Gutenberg—English

The Thomas Common translation (available through the above link) is widely
available, and a compelling rendition of the book. Some have claimed it to
be inaccurate or to possess Nazi distortions by Nietzsche's sister; however,
on comparison between it and the translations claimed to be superior, there
is very little discrepancy in the meaning of the text.

Modern translations by R.J. Hollingdale and Walter Kaufmann are sometimes
considered to more accurately convey the minutiae of the German text. They
are translations in which the work is rendered in a far more prosaic and
mundane style of language.

http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/7205
Free eBook Also sprach Zarathustra at Project Gutenberg (the original German
version of the book)

"Richard Clayton" <rZIGeclaZIGyton@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:X%fTf.3007$vy.794@trnddc01...
| George Johnson wrote:
| > http://www.boingboing.net/2006/03/18...cs_steali.html
| >
| > Saturday, March 18, 2006
| > Marvel Comics: stealing our language
| > Marvel Comics is continuing in its bid to steal the word "super-hero"
from
| > the public domain and put it in a lock-box to which it will control the
key.
| > Marvel and DC comics jointly filed a trademark on the word "super-hero."
| > They use this mark to legally harass indie comic companies that make
| > competing comic books.
| > http://www.boingboing.net/2004/02/01...dc_claim_.html
| >
| > A trademark's enforceability hinges on whether the public is likely to
| > associate a word or mark with a given company -- in other words, when
you
| > hear the word "super-hero," if you think "Marvel and DC," then Marvel
will
| > be able to go on censoring and eliminating its competition.
| >
| > One way of accomplishing this dirty bit of mind-control is by adding a T
| > symbol after the word "Super-Hero." That TM lets the world know that you
| > claim ownership over the word it accompanies. If you can get other
people to
| > do it, too, eventually you may in fact get the world to believe that the
| > word is your property -- and then, it becomes your property.
| >
| > "Super-hero" isn't Marvel's property. They didn't invent the term. They
| > aren't the only users of the term. It's a public-domain word that
belongs to
| > all of us. Adding a T to super-hero is a naked bid to steal "super-hero"
| > from us and claim it for their own.
| >
| > The latest trick in its move to steal the word is using the T symbol in
the
| > bumpf for its California science centre show -- they've recruited a
science
| > museum to help them steal "super-hero."
| > http://www.boingboing.net/2006/03/17...superhero.html
| >
| > Here's a proposal: from now on, let's never use the term "super-hero" to
| > describe a Marvel character. Let's call them "underwear perverts" -- as
| > Warren Ellis is wont to -- or vigilantes, or mutants. Let's reserve the
term
| > "super-hero" exclusively to describe the heros of comics published by
| > companies that aren't crooked word-thieves.
| >
| >
| > posted by Cory Doctorow at 11:45:11 AM permalink | Other blogs' comments
|
| Looks like Marvel and DC are scared that they are losing control over
| the market. Still, this sort of maneuvering is not at all uncommon; Sega
| tried to trademark the word "hologram" in the early 1990s. Establishing
| legal control over a word that has been in the public domain for years
| is very difficult.
| --

Oh, and by the way, from the English translation of "Thus Spake
Zarathustra" by Friedrich Nietzsche published 1887
Translated by Thomas Common

PRIOR USAGE EXISTS!

http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/1998
External links
* Free eBook Thus Spake Zarathustra at Project Gutenberg—English

QUOTH:
Then will thy soul thrill with divine desires; and there will be adoration
even in thy vanity!

For this is the secret of the soul: when the hero hath abandoned it, then
only approacheth it in dreams--the *** superhero **** .--

Thus spake Zarathustra.

"George Johnson" <matrix29@voyager.net> once tried to test me with:

> Here's a proposal: from now on, let's never use the term "super-hero"
> to describe a Marvel character. Let's call them "underwear perverts"
> -- as Warren Ellis is wont to -- or vigilantes, or mutants. Let's
> reserve the term "super-hero" exclusively to describe the heros of
> comics published by companies that aren't crooked word-thieves

How about you just stop buying their comics, stop buying their graphic
novels, stop buying their lunch boxes and halloween costumes, stop going to
see their movies, and stop playing their video games.

Didn't think you'd do that.

--

Knight37 - http://knightgames.blogspot.com

Once a Gamer, Always a Gamer.

"Knight37" <knight37m@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns978CCB34F7483knight37m@130.133.1.4...
> "George Johnson" <matrix29@voyager.net> once tried to test me with:
>
>> Here's a proposal: from now on, let's never use the term "super-hero"
>> to describe a Marvel character. Let's call them "underwear perverts"
>> -- as Warren Ellis is wont to -- or vigilantes, or mutants. Let's
>> reserve the term "super-hero" exclusively to describe the heros of
>> comics published by companies that aren't crooked word-thieves
>
> How about you just stop buying their comics, stop buying their graphic
> novels, stop buying their lunch boxes and halloween costumes, stop going
> to
> see their movies, and stop playing their video games.
>
> Didn't think you'd do that.

I did. Haven't read a consistent, worthwhile Marvel comic in years.

Well, except the movies. For a company that didn't know a decent production
value if it bit them in the 70s-90s the X-Men and Spider-man franchises have
been pretty good.

I read mostly indie these days, so I have a small stake in this fracas.


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"Knight37" <knight37m@gmail.com> wrote in message
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| "George Johnson" <matrix29@voyager.net> once tried to test me with:
|
| > Here's a proposal: from now on, let's never use the term "super-hero"
| > to describe a Marvel character. Let's call them "underwear perverts"
| > -- as Warren Ellis is wont to -- or vigilantes, or mutants. Let's
| > reserve the term "super-hero" exclusively to describe the heros of
| > comics published by companies that aren't crooked word-thieves
|
| How about you just stop buying their comics, stop buying their graphic
| novels, stop buying their lunch boxes and halloween costumes, stop going
to
| see their movies, and stop playing their video games.
|
| Didn't think you'd do that.
|
| --

Have you ever figured that perhaps I don't mind MARVEL COMICS & DC
COMICS being business-minded, but I do not tolerate unethical business
practices which are ineptly crass while being legally indefensible.
Seriously what sort of moronic business executives and incompetent legal
representation even tries to claim exclusive usage to the word "Superhero"
while so much PRIOR ART exists to refute this in a sneering laugh? An
unethical business move like this reminds me of the time DC COMICS sued
Fawcett Comics to stop Captain Marvel from outselling the Superman comics of
the day.

I do understand that DC COMICS is deciding to take a stab at Online
Gaming using their character library, but frankly if they're going to make
assholes of themselves in the process rather than deciding to fairly present
a comparable quality product then I see no logical reason to fund their
assholery.

"George Johnson" <matrix29@voyager.net> once tried to test me with:

> Have you ever figured that perhaps I don't mind MARVEL COMICS & DC
> COMICS being business-minded, but I do not tolerate unethical business
> practices which are ineptly crass while being legally indefensible.
> Seriously what sort of moronic business executives and incompetent
> legal representation even tries to claim exclusive usage to the word
> "Superhero" while so much PRIOR ART exists to refute this in a
> sneering laugh? An unethical business move like this reminds me of
> the time DC COMICS sued Fawcett Comics to stop Captain Marvel from
> outselling the Superman comics of the day.

I read this on Wikipedia -

The terms "Super Hero" and "Super Heroes," and by association,
"superhero"[6] has been jointly trademarked by DC Comics and Marvel Comics
to describe entertainment on television, film, and printed media (U.S.
Trademark Serial Nos. 72243225 and 73222079).


Apparently they were granted trademarks on "Super Hero" quite a while back.
That's just ludicrous.

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"Knight37" <knight37m@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns978DDEF74657Dknight37m@130.133.1.4...
| "George Johnson" <matrix29@voyager.net> once tried to test me with:
|
| > Have you ever figured that perhaps I don't mind MARVEL COMICS & DC
| > COMICS being business-minded, but I do not tolerate unethical business
| > practices which are ineptly crass while being legally indefensible.
| > Seriously what sort of moronic business executives and incompetent
| > legal representation even tries to claim exclusive usage to the word
| > "Superhero" while so much PRIOR ART exists to refute this in a
| > sneering laugh? An unethical business move like this reminds me of
| > the time DC COMICS sued Fawcett Comics to stop Captain Marvel from
| > outselling the Superman comics of the day.
|
| I read this on Wikipedia -
|
| The terms "Super Hero" and "Super Heroes," and by association,
| "superhero"[6] has been jointly trademarked by DC Comics and Marvel Comics
| to describe entertainment on television, film, and printed media (U.S.
| Trademark Serial Nos. 72243225 and 73222079).
|
|
| Apparently they were granted trademarks on "Super Hero" quite a while
back.
| That's just ludicrous.
|
| --

Yes, read my other posts on this subject here.
I cover the prior art aspects and post the details.
As for whom is the first official "Tights wearing" Superhero, that is
"The Phantom" created prior to Superman.


----- Original Message -----
From: "George Johnson" <matrix29@voyager.net>
Newsgroups: alt.games.coh
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: MARVEL & DC COMICS are making ASSHOLES out of themselves
*AGAIN*

================

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield...ate=88921m.2.1
Typed Drawing
Word Mark SUPER HERO
Goods and Services IC 025. US 039. G & S: MASQUERADE COSTUMES. FIRST USE:
19651029. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19660304
Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING
Design Search Code
Serial Number 72243225
Filing Date April 12, 1966
Current Filing Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1A
Registration Number 0825835
Registration Date March 14, 1967
Owner (REGISTRANT) BEN COOPER, INC. CORPORATION NEW YORK 33 34TH ST.
BROOKLYN NEW YORK

(LAST LISTED OWNER) DC COMICS, INC. CORPORATION ASSIGNEE OF NEW YORK 666
FIFTH AVENUE NEW YORK NEW YORK 10103

(LAST LISTED OWNER) MARVEL ENTERTAINMENT GROUP, INC. CORPORATION ASSIGNEE OF
DELAWARE 387 PARK AVENUE SOUTH NEW YORK NEW YORK 10016
Assignment Recorded ASSIGNMENT RECORDED
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Renewal 1ST RENEWAL 19870314
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

===================

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield...ate=88921m.3.1
Typed Drawing
Word Mark SUPER HEROES
Goods and Services IC 016. US 002 005 022 023 029 037 038 050. G & S:
PUBLICATIONS, PARTICULARLY COMIC BOOKS AND MAGAZINES AND STORIES IN
ILLUSTRATED FORM [(( ; CARDBOARD STAND-UP FIGURES; PLAYING CARDS; PAPER
IRON-ON TRANSFER; ERASERS; PENCIL SHARPENERS; PENCILS; GLUE FOR OFFICE AND
HOME USE, SUCH AS IS SOLD AS STATIONERY SUPPLY;] NOTEBOOKS AND STAMP
ALBUMS )). FIRST USE: 19661000. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19661000
Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING
Design Search Code
Serial Number 73222079
Filing Date July 3, 1979
Current Filing Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1A
Published for Opposition June 9, 1981
Registration Number 1179067
Registration Date November 24, 1981
Owner (REGISTRANT) Cadence Industries Corporation a.k.a. Marvel Comics
Group and DC Comics Inc. CORPORATION DELAWARE 575 Madison Ave. New York NEW
YORK 10022

(LAST LISTED OWNER) DC COMICS PARTNERSHIP BY ASSIGNMENT NEW YORK 1700
BROADWAY NEW YORK NEW YORK 10019

(LAST LISTED OWNER) MARVEL CHARACTERS, INC. CORPORATION BY ASSIGNMENT
DELAWARE 10474 SANTA MONICA BOULEVARD SUITE 206 LOS ANGELES CALIFORNIA 90025
Assignment Recorded ASSIGNMENT RECORDED
Attorney of Record JONATHAN D. REICHMAN
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Affidavit Text SECT 15. SECT 8 (6-YR). SECTION 8(10-YR) 20020819.
Renewal 1ST RENEWAL 20020819
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

A good summary of the history of this and the actual legal facts of the
case can be found here, btw:

http://briefs.toddverbeek.com/archiv...nd_Marvel.html

( or http://tinyurl.com/g33c2 )

-R

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