Begging over ooc or tells seems to be happening more and more to me.

Whilst learning players often handed me pieces of armour or a weapon and it
was gratefully received but I never asked for this.

I have recently received tells from players who obviously know how to play
due to the rapid communication skills (it took me an age to work out all the
buttons) these tells are begging for money or equipment - so I give a little
why not I don't need horns of beast or a wooden shield these goods are worth
little to me now.

But when I think back most of my equipment in the early days was earnt
through quests or damn hard work and although I have given and still do to
be honest part of me wants to tell these guys to get lost and earn the goods
they want.

Is there a perceived etiquette to this? Is it to be frowned upon?

"Carl Procter" <c.procter@ntlworld.com> wrote

> I have recently received tells from players who obviously know how to play
> due to the rapid communication skills (it took me an age to work out all
the
> buttons) these tells are begging for money or equipment - so I give a
little
> why not I don't need horns of beast or a wooden shield these goods are
worth
> little to me now.
>
>....
>
> Is there a perceived etiquette to this? Is it to be frowned upon?

I almost never give to beggers, but I recently went to GFay to clear out the
old gear from the banks of all my characters and there were almost no takers
for the low end stuff. Either they were too proud to come get it or it is
too low end even for level 1s now. The few people that did come even turned
their noses up or gave me a load of cheek about the items I offered them!

A couple of years ago there would have been a mad scrabble for anything :/

-RedFox

"Carl Procter" <c.procter@ntlworld.com> wrote

> I have recently received tells from players who obviously know how to play
> due to the rapid communication skills (it took me an age to work out all
the
> buttons) these tells are begging for money or equipment - so I give a
little
> why not I don't need horns of beast or a wooden shield these goods are
worth
> little to me now.
>
>....
>
> Is there a perceived etiquette to this? Is it to be frowned upon?

I almost never give to beggers, but I recently went to GFay to clear out the
old gear from the banks of all my characters and there were almost no takers
for the low end stuff. Either they were too proud to come get it or it is
too low end even for level 1s now. The few people that did come even turned
their noses up or gave me a load of cheek about the items I offered them!

A couple of years ago there would have been a mad scrabble for anything :/

-RedFox

Quoth Carl Procter:
> Begging over ooc or tells seems to be happening more and more to me.
[snip]
> Is there a perceived etiquette to this? Is it to be frowned upon?

Rules for begging:

1) Don't.


That's about the size of it, really.

--
Venerable Hanrahan, Storm Warden (Human), Fennin Ro

"Nuts and bolts" ufologists vs. "frontal lobe" ufologists

Quoth Carl Procter:
> Begging over ooc or tells seems to be happening more and more to me.
[snip]
> Is there a perceived etiquette to this? Is it to be frowned upon?

Rules for begging:

1) Don't.


That's about the size of it, really.

--
Venerable Hanrahan, Storm Warden (Human), Fennin Ro

"Nuts and bolts" ufologists vs. "frontal lobe" ufologists

"Carl Procter" <c.procter@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:0HTLb.1438$g06.842@newsfep3-gui.server.ntli.net...
> Begging over ooc or tells seems to be happening more and more to me.
>
> Whilst learning players often handed me pieces of armour or a weapon and
it
> was gratefully received but I never asked for this.
>
> I have recently received tells from players who obviously know how to play
> due to the rapid communication skills (it took me an age to work out all
the
> buttons) these tells are begging for money or equipment - so I give a
little
> why not I don't need horns of beast or a wooden shield these goods are
worth
> little to me now.
>
> But when I think back most of my equipment in the early days was earnt
> through quests or damn hard work and although I have given and still do to
> be honest part of me wants to tell these guys to get lost and earn the
goods
> they want.
>
> Is there a perceived etiquette to this? Is it to be frowned upon?
>
>
>

please don't feed the beggars. I tell them to piss off. bet you 100pp that
within a day or so, that character that you just dropped gear and cash on
will be deleted, your item up in the bazaar and them at it again with a new
character.

IF, by some miracle they roleplay a need, and aren't asking for the world
(please sir, can you spare a few gold so a young cleric can buy his first
level spells?)

I'll be happy to help them...or best yet is to hit the newbie yards. watch
who is doing what...if you see a character looting every single kill, and
the corpse disappearing and they look gearless, I'll engage them in a bit of
conversation and ususally hand them a few plat or an item I recently looted
but have no use for. But the ones who are just killing everything and not
bothering to loot - you know they are either twinked to hell already or have
a fat bankroll on onother account/character.

there's a difference between beggars and the needy. Beggars don't usually
(99% of the time) need it, but the needy....

"Carl Procter" <c.procter@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:0HTLb.1438$g06.842@newsfep3-gui.server.ntli.net...
> Begging over ooc or tells seems to be happening more and more to me.
>
> Whilst learning players often handed me pieces of armour or a weapon and
it
> was gratefully received but I never asked for this.
>
> I have recently received tells from players who obviously know how to play
> due to the rapid communication skills (it took me an age to work out all
the
> buttons) these tells are begging for money or equipment - so I give a
little
> why not I don't need horns of beast or a wooden shield these goods are
worth
> little to me now.
>
> But when I think back most of my equipment in the early days was earnt
> through quests or damn hard work and although I have given and still do to
> be honest part of me wants to tell these guys to get lost and earn the
goods
> they want.
>
> Is there a perceived etiquette to this? Is it to be frowned upon?
>
>
>

please don't feed the beggars. I tell them to piss off. bet you 100pp that
within a day or so, that character that you just dropped gear and cash on
will be deleted, your item up in the bazaar and them at it again with a new
character.

IF, by some miracle they roleplay a need, and aren't asking for the world
(please sir, can you spare a few gold so a young cleric can buy his first
level spells?)

I'll be happy to help them...or best yet is to hit the newbie yards. watch
who is doing what...if you see a character looting every single kill, and
the corpse disappearing and they look gearless, I'll engage them in a bit of
conversation and ususally hand them a few plat or an item I recently looted
but have no use for. But the ones who are just killing everything and not
bothering to loot - you know they are either twinked to hell already or have
a fat bankroll on onother account/character.

there's a difference between beggars and the needy. Beggars don't usually
(99% of the time) need it, but the needy....

David Navarro <david@alcaudon.com> wrote in news:20040110145908439+0000
@usenet.f9.net.uk:

> Rules for begging:
>
> 1) Don't.
>
>
> That's about the size of it, really.

I'm sorry, but I couldn't get my pencil sharpened. waht were the rest of
the rules? <jk>



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David Navarro <david@alcaudon.com> wrote in news:20040110145908439+0000
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> Rules for begging:
>
> 1) Don't.
>
>
> That's about the size of it, really.

I'm sorry, but I couldn't get my pencil sharpened. waht were the rest of
the rules? <jk>



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"Carl Procter" <c.procter@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:0HTLb.1438$g06.842@newsfep3-gui.server.ntli.net...
: Begging over ooc or tells seems to be happening more and more to me.
:
: Whilst learning players often handed me pieces of armour or a weapon and
it
: was gratefully received but I never asked for this.
:
: I have recently received tells from players who obviously know how to play
: due to the rapid communication skills (it took me an age to work out all
the
: buttons) these tells are begging for money or equipment - so I give a
little
: why not I don't need horns of beast or a wooden shield these goods are
worth
: little to me now.
:
: But when I think back most of my equipment in the early days was earnt
: through quests or damn hard work and although I have given and still do to
: be honest part of me wants to tell these guys to get lost and earn the
goods
: they want.
:
: Is there a perceived etiquette to this? Is it to be frowned upon?
:
:
:
The only time I give anything away is when I choose to give something away,
and then I will hit a newbie zone and watch awhile before I ask a particular
character if they need equipment. I never OOC. When a beggar hits me up, I
graciously decline to give them any plat or equip, but offer to buff. Most
of the time the beggar is happy with my offer, but a few times I've gotten
"Bah" or some other comment and then I know what kind of player they are.

Drahlien Verlorenherz
Barbarian Shaman

"Carl Procter" <c.procter@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:0HTLb.1438$g06.842@newsfep3-gui.server.ntli.net...
: Begging over ooc or tells seems to be happening more and more to me.
:
: Whilst learning players often handed me pieces of armour or a weapon and
it
: was gratefully received but I never asked for this.
:
: I have recently received tells from players who obviously know how to play
: due to the rapid communication skills (it took me an age to work out all
the
: buttons) these tells are begging for money or equipment - so I give a
little
: why not I don't need horns of beast or a wooden shield these goods are
worth
: little to me now.
:
: But when I think back most of my equipment in the early days was earnt
: through quests or damn hard work and although I have given and still do to
: be honest part of me wants to tell these guys to get lost and earn the
goods
: they want.
:
: Is there a perceived etiquette to this? Is it to be frowned upon?
:
:
:
The only time I give anything away is when I choose to give something away,
and then I will hit a newbie zone and watch awhile before I ask a particular
character if they need equipment. I never OOC. When a beggar hits me up, I
graciously decline to give them any plat or equip, but offer to buff. Most
of the time the beggar is happy with my offer, but a few times I've gotten
"Bah" or some other comment and then I know what kind of player they are.

Drahlien Verlorenherz
Barbarian Shaman

Carl Procter wrote:

> Begging over ooc or tells seems to be happening more and more to me.
>
> Whilst learning players often handed me pieces of armour or a weapon and it
> was gratefully received but I never asked for this.
>
> I have recently received tells from players who obviously know how to play
> due to the rapid communication skills (it took me an age to work out all the
> buttons) these tells are begging for money or equipment - so I give a little
> why not I don't need horns of beast or a wooden shield these goods are worth
> little to me now.
>
> But when I think back most of my equipment in the early days was earnt
> through quests or damn hard work and although I have given and still do to
> be honest part of me wants to tell these guys to get lost and earn the goods
> they want.
>
> Is there a perceived etiquette to this? Is it to be frowned upon?
>

When you see someone begging for gear or plat, /ignore them.

Never group with anyone on your ignore list. (note, there are options
in the /lfg tool to prevent ignored people showing up in there, too)

This simple combination, applied assiduously, will effectively put you
in a begger free world.