Ishmaiel wrote:
> gaf1234567890 wrote:
> > Chizel wrote:
> > > With the current system rep is gained for a given faction when you do a
> > > battle ground, and also a mark of honour for the BG.
> > > So if I got exalted in WSG I could not get the AV rewards.
> > >
> > > The new patch notes show that you will gain honour points instead of
> > > faction which can be spent like gold.
> > >
> > > But does anyone know if you get different honour points per BG, or is
> > > it a global pool.
> > >
> > > I.e I can do 100 WSG's and spend the honour gained on AV rewards? Or
> > > will I just have WSG honour points?
> >
> > I believe the items will cost a combination of Honor points and Ribbons
> > (which are still given out 3:1 for wins/losses). So you could earn part
> > of the cost PvP'ing anywhere, but part of the cost will have to come
> > from playing that specific BG.
>
> From what it was explained to me it'll be a combination of Honor tokens
> (rewarded on tuesday after maint, instead of a new rank) Battleground
> marks (Like the ugly WSG one you get when you win (3) and lose (1)) and
> possibly gold.
>
> It makes sense but what about the people who've grinded honor and not
> reached the epic pvp gear? Do they get a headstart or is it "Sorry
> slim, should have given up earlier everybody starts at 0" Because if
> so, thats really freekin weak.

Well, Chizel was talking about BG Rep rewards, not Rank rewards.

As far as Rank rewards, Blizzard first announced the complete Honor
system overhaul about 2 months ago, plus it'll be another few weeks
until the new system is in effect. A guildmate of mine started the Rank
climb from the beginning with his L58 Warlock right around the time the
announcement was made, knowing full well he was "racing the clock". In
the last 7 weeks he's gotten up to Rank 10 as well as hitting 60 in the
process just from ribbon turn-ins. He's going for both the Rank 11 epic
mount and Exalted in AB to get Ironbark Staff. He figures he'll make it
in the next 2 weeks, just in time.

The point is, PvP'ers going for high Rank know the change is coming and
what's at stake. Most are still going full tilt anyway.

"gaf1234567890" <gaf1234567890@hotmail.com> writes:
>As far as Rank rewards, Blizzard first announced the complete Honor
>system overhaul about 2 months ago, plus it'll be another few weeks
>until the new system is in effect. A guildmate of mine started the Rank

There is a repeating rumor that 2.0.1 is going up next week. I've been
skeptical because I don't see the point of having a PTR for only 10 days,
but I keep hearing it from people in the beta.

The main supporting argument is that 'this has all been tested in the beta
already'. Anyone who programs for a living doesn't buy this, because we
know it's all about packaging, and not the individual bits of code. *
--
* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
like corkscrews.

"gaf1234567890" <gaf1234567890@hotmail.com> writes:
>As far as Rank rewards, Blizzard first announced the complete Honor
>system overhaul about 2 months ago, plus it'll be another few weeks
>until the new system is in effect. A guildmate of mine started the Rank

There is a repeating rumor that 2.0.1 is going up next week. I've been
skeptical because I don't see the point of having a PTR for only 10 days,
but I keep hearing it from people in the beta.

The main supporting argument is that 'this has all been tested in the beta
already'. Anyone who programs for a living doesn't buy this, because we
know it's all about packaging, and not the individual bits of code. *
--
* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
like corkscrews.

"gaf1234567890" <gaf1234567890@hotmail.com> writes:
>As far as Rank rewards, Blizzard first announced the complete Honor
>system overhaul about 2 months ago, plus it'll be another few weeks
>until the new system is in effect. A guildmate of mine started the Rank

There is a repeating rumor that 2.0.1 is going up next week. I've been
skeptical because I don't see the point of having a PTR for only 10 days,
but I keep hearing it from people in the beta.

The main supporting argument is that 'this has all been tested in the beta
already'. Anyone who programs for a living doesn't buy this, because we
know it's all about packaging, and not the individual bits of code. *
--
* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
like corkscrews.

"gaf1234567890" <gaf1234567890@hotmail.com> writes:
>As far as Rank rewards, Blizzard first announced the complete Honor
>system overhaul about 2 months ago, plus it'll be another few weeks
>until the new system is in effect. A guildmate of mine started the Rank

There is a repeating rumor that 2.0.1 is going up next week. I've been
skeptical because I don't see the point of having a PTR for only 10 days,
but I keep hearing it from people in the beta.

The main supporting argument is that 'this has all been tested in the beta
already'. Anyone who programs for a living doesn't buy this, because we
know it's all about packaging, and not the individual bits of code. *
--
* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
like corkscrews.

PV wrote:
> "gaf1234567890" <gaf1234567890@hotmail.com> writes:
> >As far as Rank rewards, Blizzard first announced the complete Honor
> >system overhaul about 2 months ago, plus it'll be another few weeks
> >until the new system is in effect. A guildmate of mine started the Rank
>
> There is a repeating rumor that 2.0.1 is going up next week. I've been
> skeptical because I don't see the point of having a PTR for only 10 days,
> but I keep hearing it from people in the beta.
>
> The main supporting argument is that 'this has all been tested in the beta
> already'. Anyone who programs for a living doesn't buy this, because we
> know it's all about packaging, and not the individual bits of code. *

I don't have any insider info, but my own guess.

Deployments are not trivial, even if the changes in the patch are
small. There's just a process you have to follow no matter what. I
figure 2.0.1 is going to come whenever they were going to enable the
Xmas content anyway.

Plus the official BC date is January 16th, and the PTR went up with
2.0.1 on November 14th. Split the difference and you get a 4 week test
cycle and a deployment right before the Holidays on December 12th or
19th.

You also get to give your people a nice little break to enjoy some time
with their families, use some accrued vacation time, and get ready for
the massive push when they get back after the 25th.

Just a guess though.

PV wrote:
> "gaf1234567890" <gaf1234567890@hotmail.com> writes:
> >As far as Rank rewards, Blizzard first announced the complete Honor
> >system overhaul about 2 months ago, plus it'll be another few weeks
> >until the new system is in effect. A guildmate of mine started the Rank
>
> There is a repeating rumor that 2.0.1 is going up next week. I've been
> skeptical because I don't see the point of having a PTR for only 10 days,
> but I keep hearing it from people in the beta.
>
> The main supporting argument is that 'this has all been tested in the beta
> already'. Anyone who programs for a living doesn't buy this, because we
> know it's all about packaging, and not the individual bits of code. *

I don't have any insider info, but my own guess.

Deployments are not trivial, even if the changes in the patch are
small. There's just a process you have to follow no matter what. I
figure 2.0.1 is going to come whenever they were going to enable the
Xmas content anyway.

Plus the official BC date is January 16th, and the PTR went up with
2.0.1 on November 14th. Split the difference and you get a 4 week test
cycle and a deployment right before the Holidays on December 12th or
19th.

You also get to give your people a nice little break to enjoy some time
with their families, use some accrued vacation time, and get ready for
the massive push when they get back after the 25th.

Just a guess though.

PV wrote:
> "gaf1234567890" <gaf1234567890@hotmail.com> writes:
> >As far as Rank rewards, Blizzard first announced the complete Honor
> >system overhaul about 2 months ago, plus it'll be another few weeks
> >until the new system is in effect. A guildmate of mine started the Rank
>
> There is a repeating rumor that 2.0.1 is going up next week. I've been
> skeptical because I don't see the point of having a PTR for only 10 days,
> but I keep hearing it from people in the beta.
>
> The main supporting argument is that 'this has all been tested in the beta
> already'. Anyone who programs for a living doesn't buy this, because we
> know it's all about packaging, and not the individual bits of code. *

I don't have any insider info, but my own guess.

Deployments are not trivial, even if the changes in the patch are
small. There's just a process you have to follow no matter what. I
figure 2.0.1 is going to come whenever they were going to enable the
Xmas content anyway.

Plus the official BC date is January 16th, and the PTR went up with
2.0.1 on November 14th. Split the difference and you get a 4 week test
cycle and a deployment right before the Holidays on December 12th or
19th.

You also get to give your people a nice little break to enjoy some time
with their families, use some accrued vacation time, and get ready for
the massive push when they get back after the 25th.

Just a guess though.

PV wrote:
> "gaf1234567890" <gaf1234567890@hotmail.com> writes:
> >As far as Rank rewards, Blizzard first announced the complete Honor
> >system overhaul about 2 months ago, plus it'll be another few weeks
> >until the new system is in effect. A guildmate of mine started the Rank
>
> There is a repeating rumor that 2.0.1 is going up next week. I've been
> skeptical because I don't see the point of having a PTR for only 10 days,
> but I keep hearing it from people in the beta.
>
> The main supporting argument is that 'this has all been tested in the beta
> already'. Anyone who programs for a living doesn't buy this, because we
> know it's all about packaging, and not the individual bits of code. *

I don't have any insider info, but my own guess.

Deployments are not trivial, even if the changes in the patch are
small. There's just a process you have to follow no matter what. I
figure 2.0.1 is going to come whenever they were going to enable the
Xmas content anyway.

Plus the official BC date is January 16th, and the PTR went up with
2.0.1 on November 14th. Split the difference and you get a 4 week test
cycle and a deployment right before the Holidays on December 12th or
19th.

You also get to give your people a nice little break to enjoy some time
with their families, use some accrued vacation time, and get ready for
the massive push when they get back after the 25th.

Just a guess though.

PV <pv+usenet@pobox.com> wrote:
> There is a repeating rumor that 2.0.1 is going up next week. I've been
> skeptical because I don't see the point of having a PTR for only 10 days,
> but I keep hearing it from people in the beta.

I wouldn't be surprised if it is a week from Tuesday. Doing it this
week makes no sense, what with the Thanksgiving stuff going on.

PV <pv+usenet@pobox.com> wrote:
> There is a repeating rumor that 2.0.1 is going up next week. I've been
> skeptical because I don't see the point of having a PTR for only 10 days,
> but I keep hearing it from people in the beta.

I wouldn't be surprised if it is a week from Tuesday. Doing it this
week makes no sense, what with the Thanksgiving stuff going on.

PV <pv+usenet@pobox.com> wrote:
> There is a repeating rumor that 2.0.1 is going up next week. I've been
> skeptical because I don't see the point of having a PTR for only 10 days,
> but I keep hearing it from people in the beta.

I wouldn't be surprised if it is a week from Tuesday. Doing it this
week makes no sense, what with the Thanksgiving stuff going on.