Ok, so I just finished the Black Moras quest last night and it was a
pain (I won't tell you how many times we tried it it was that
bad ). Anyway I am a little confused on the Karazhan quests. I
was told that you need to do the Escape from Durnehold then the Black
Moras quests before you could go in to Karazhan. Well, I still have
the key fragment quests for Karazhan. Do I still need to do the key
fragment quests or can one person open the door for me to enter?

On Mar 8, 9:41 am, "nacree" <theacr...@mchsi.com> wrote:
> Ok, so I just finished the Black Moras quest last night and it was a
> pain (I won't tell you how many times we tried it it was that
> bad ). Anyway I am a little confused on the Karazhan quests. I
> was told that you need to do the Escape from Durnehold then the Black
> Moras quests before you could go in to Karazhan. Well, I still have
> the key fragment quests for Karazhan. Do I still need to do the key
> fragment quests or can one person open the door for me to enter?

You were SEVERELY miss-led.

The first fragment is after the final boss in Shadow Labs.

Second fragment is in the water to the right of the first boss in
Steam Vaults.

Third Fragment is mid-way through Arcatraz.

Then, you finally must complete the Black Morass event to finish that
series.

By the way, if your group suffered trying to do BM.......you may want
to find a different group for Shadow Labs and Arcatraz. Black Morass
was the easiest of the series, IMO.

Good Luck!!!

You have to go to karazhan and get the quest from the dude outside,
the follow up is to speak to some guy in Shattrah, then you have to
loot the fragment from Shadow Labs. The follow up is to loot the next
2 fragements from steamvaults and arcatraz. You then have to talk to
medvih after completing the black morass event. To get into Black
Morass you need to have freed thrall from Old Hillsbrad. After this
you get the key to Karazhan.

On Mar 8, 4:41 pm, "nacree" <theacr...@mchsi.com> wrote:
> Ok, so I just finished the Black Moras quest last night and it was a
> pain (I won't tell you how many times we tried it it was that
> bad ). Anyway I am a little confused on the Karazhan quests. I
> was told that you need to do the Escape from Durnehold then the Black
> Moras quests before you could go in to Karazhan. Well, I still have
> the key fragment quests for Karazhan. Do I still need to do the key
> fragment quests or can one person open the door for me to enter?

When you have done the Black Morash event and finished the 'The
Master's Touch' quest by talking to Medivh, the Restored Apprentice's
Key will be in your keyring. You can then go to Karazhan (and have a
little with the guy in front of it to receive followup quests that
lead you inside).

If you don't have the key, but the fragments, I fear you skipped a
step in the questchain...

I have the quest for the first key fragment ("Entry to Karazhan" or
something like that) but I have already done the Durnholde escort,
Black Moras (eighteen waves of mobs and bosses quest). I am just
wondering if i can even get in to Karazhan if someone opens the door
(ala UBRS key, Scholomance key, etc..) where only 1 person needs to
have a key to let the party in.

On Mar 8, 12:53 pm, "nacree" <theacr...@mchsi.com> wrote:
> I have the quest for the first key fragment ("Entry to Karazhan" or
> something like that) but I have already done the Durnholde escort,
> Black Moras (eighteen waves of mobs and bosses quest). I am just
> wondering if i can even get in to Karazhan if someone opens the door
> (ala UBRS key, Scholomance key, etc..) where only 1 person needs to
> have a key to let the party in.

No, it is like Onyxia, but instead of a Neck piece to get in, you need
the key.

Your next step is Shadow Labs, the First Fragment is in a containter
to the left of the FINAL boss.

"nacree" <theacrees@mchsi.com> writes:
>I have the quest for the first key fragment ("Entry to Karazhan" or
>something like that) but I have already done the Durnholde escort,
>Black Moras (eighteen waves of mobs and bosses quest). I am just
>wondering if i can even get in to Karazhan if someone opens the door
>(ala UBRS key, Scholomance key, etc..) where only 1 person needs to
>have a key to let the party in.

Everyone has to have their own key, or they can't get through the portal. *
--
* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
like corkscrews.

"nacree" <theacrees@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:1173380007.088524.327420@t69g2000cwt.googlegr oups.com...
>I have the quest for the first key fragment ("Entry to Karazhan" or
> something like that) but I have already done the Durnholde escort,
> Black Moras (eighteen waves of mobs and bosses quest). I am just
> wondering if i can even get in to Karazhan if someone opens the door
> (ala UBRS key, Scholomance key, etc..) where only 1 person needs to
> have a key to let the party in.
>
I'm afraid you did Black Morass for nothing. After you get the third key
fragment you need to redo Black Morass to finish the key.

Fullauto a écrit :
snip
>
> By the way, if your group suffered trying to do BM.......you may want
> to find a different group for Shadow Labs and Arcatraz. Black Morass
> was the easiest of the series, IMO.
>
> Good Luck!!!
>



euh I really don't agree. I'm stuck at COT2, all the rest was pretty
easy (getting the key fragments, not doing the entire instances)


COT2 3 different groups tried and many many failures.

On Mar 9, 11:21 am, Mel <melo...@pasdespam.chezmoi> wrote:
> Fullauto a écrit :
> snip
>
>
>
> > By the way, if your group suffered trying to do BM.......you may want
> > to find a different group for Shadow Labs and Arcatraz. Black Morass
> > was the easiest of the series, IMO.
>
> > Good Luck!!!
>
> euh I really don't agree. I'm stuck at COT2, all the rest was pretty
> easy (getting the key fragments, not doing the entire instances)
>
> COT2 3 different groups tried and many many failures.

Mel the key i found for COT2 was as follows:

1. All go in and clear all the trash mobs away from where the portal
open, you've been there before so you've an idea where the portals
appear. Clear all the trash you can find.

2. I am a mage and I was solely responsible for stopping the welps and
dragons which come out of the portal from getting to the shield. I was
able to cope solo all the time, with mana pots and sitting and
drikning alot (so about 40-60 waters)

3. Don't use your beacons until atleast the 2nd boss (wave 12) (you
can use max of 1 beacon on first boss if needed)

4. All other classes DPS the portal keeper (or whatever they are
called) just leave the mage solo on the trash

5. On the 1st boss leave the trash to go to the shield, it will hold
for some time. Get the mage to go all out DPS on the boss and down as
quick as poss. If the shield is getting down to about 80% then pop 1
beacon to clear the trash up.

6. Down the boss clear the remaining trash and rest up for the next
phase of waves.

7. Next waves are pretty much the same as the first lot. Put Mage on
the trash and don't use any beacons.

8. On the 2nd boss leave the trash and DPS the boss down as qucick as
poss, agian using beacons when needed (Max of 2 beacons) you don't
want the shield to go lower than about 60%

9. Rest up and get ready for the last bit, these portals open much
quicker, sometimes you will have 2 portals open. But the last boss
doesn't bring any adds.

10. Use the remaining beacons wisely to clear up the adds when you're
having trouble. You want all the trash down and be healed up and
mana'd up and attacking the last boss with about 25-30% shield.

When you attack the last boss he stops damaging the shield, and it's
just a normal (long) tank and spank.

If you're mage runs out of mana and pots, just get them to pop
invisibility, when they are invisible they can start driniking again.

It will take a couple of goes to get the rhythm but it's do-able with
practice.

Kedge
lvl 70 Frost Mage
Not Enough Rage

Bronzebeard - EU

In article <1173446799.876601.291040@q40g2000cwq.googlegroups .com>,
Richard.Harvey@arval.co.uk says...
>
> 4. All other classes DPS the portal keeper (or whatever they are
> called) just leave the mage solo on the trash
>

yeah right.

In article <1173380007.088524.327420@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups .com>,
theacrees@mchsi.com says...
> I have the quest for the first key fragment ("Entry to Karazhan" or
> something like that) but I have already done the Durnholde escort,
> Black Moras (eighteen waves of mobs and bosses quest).

Doing The Opening of the Dark Portal (which many calls "Black Moras") is
not the point - you have to have a quest to talk to Medivh back in time,
and since he is busy opening the portal first you have to help him then
you have to talk to thim. Just helping him is not enough. So you have to
do it again when you get the quest.