On Apr 27, 3:05 pm, cmrend...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Apr 9, 2:30 pm, "Darin Johnson" <d...@usa.net> wrote:
> > One snag is that lots of people also use the rule "always
> > pass on bind-on-pickup items, even if you need it."
>
> I think this rule is completely redundant. If you need the item then
> you should you roll "need". The game essentially does the "/random"
> roll automatically for those who rolled need. Anyone who wants to
> vendor the item shoudl roll "greed".

I agree, it's a bit redundant. But the rule is there and people will
be
very angry if you violate it. That's because the people who
pass because that's what the custom is aren't given a chance
to change their minds when they notice someone selecting
greed (and will think that person is a ninja). If everyone just
followed the same rules as BOE there'd be little problem.

However, there are a few minor advantages to this rule. First,
it gives groups a chance to negotiate over the disposition of the
item. Someone can offer to buy the item, or disenchant it first
and roll on the materials, or discuss whether it really is needed
for a character or not, etc. This isn't needed for BOE.

One useful part of this rule is when there are enchanters around
who can disenchant and then the group rolls on the materials.
Basically the rule gives groups time to discuss how to dispose of
the item; whereas BOE items can always be negotiated over
later.

It would be interesting if BOP items obtained while in a group
didn't become soulbound until you left the dungeon or group.
They could be freely traded until then. (but quest rewards
should always be soulbound, imo)

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Darin Johnson

"Darin Johnson" <darin@usa.net> wrote in message
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> One useful part of this rule is when there are enchanters around
> who can disenchant and then the group rolls on the materials.
> Basically the rule gives groups time to discuss how to dispose of
> the item; whereas BOE items can always be negotiated over
> later.

I believe BoP items have a three-minute timer on the roll-for-loot window,
don't they? That should be sufficient time for everybody to discuss what's
up. I don't automatically pass on BoP's because I've been screwed outta them
sometimes by somebody who chooses 'greed' just to vendor/DE it. But, I never
hit the need button until I've discussed with the group why I'm going to and
see a consensus, if they have a better reason I shouldn't (hasn't happened
yet), then I'll pass. Or, if it's going to be a more significant upgrade to
another in the party, I'll often pass just because I know what it's like -
being a green-geared rogue and getting beat on a shadowcraft piece by a
rogue who already has 5pcs and blues in other slots...in ramparts/furnace
(was in one group that did both back-to-back), I passed on two nice leather
items to another rogue in the group, simply because I saw he had pre-TBC
greens compared to me having pre-TBC epics in those slots...