I"m a lvl 70 shadoweave warlock. What is the benifit of going with
either the scryers or aldors. I know i can look it up on thottbot or
wowwikki but i'd like some personal reasons for going with one or the
other


TIA

On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 19:12:13 -0800, thadrixorf@wow.com wrote:

>I"m a lvl 70 shadoweave warlock. What is the benifit of going with
>either the scryers or aldors. I know i can look it up on thottbot or
>wowwikki but i'd like some personal reasons for going with one or the
>other

Well it's entirely down to what you want out of the rewards - the best
comparison is at
http://www.wowwiki.com/Comparison_of...Scryer_rewards

Personally, both of my warlocks are Scryers, but that was partly for
outside reasons - my 70 lock was my 2nd tailor to be able to choose a
faction, and my first tailor is Aldor so I wanted to be able to make the
spelldamage spellthread too (among other reasons), while my second warlock
is a blood elf so starts friendly with the Scryers by default and I didn't
fancy the extra repgrind for Aldor (haven't actually selected faction as I
need to be lvl 60 but I will go Scryers for sure).

For warlocks the stuff to look at is mainly rewards; as a tailor you'll
benefit more from Scryers as they have the spelldamage leg enchant recipe
(Aldor have a healing one), but you might prefer the Aldor shoulder enchant
which is more damage than crit, while Scryers has more crit.

Itemswise Aldor have a blue staff and robe, but neither has much stamina
on, so aren't ideal for a warlock... Scryers have an epic ring which is
pretty nice plus a blue spellhit trinket, most use if you plan to raid but
has uses in other situations too. I think I prefer the Scryers items as
it's pretty easy to get better than the Aldor ones but it's just personal
really.
--
EU-Draenor:
Balgair - Human Rogue (lvl 70)
Naomh - Draenei Priest (lvl 70)
Rosad - Human Warlock (lvl 70)
Sealgair - Dwarf Hunter (lvl 70)
Sagart - Undead Priest (lvl 65)
Eilnich - Blood Elf Warlock (lvl 59)
Sgoildubh - Human Mage (lvl 53)
Beag - Dwarf Paladin (lvl 53)
Cathach - Gnome Warrior (lvl 30)

On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 03:32:05 +0000, Catriona R
<catrionarNOSPAM@totalise.co.uk> wrote:

>On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 19:12:13 -0800, thadrixorf@wow.com wrote:
>
>>I"m a lvl 70 shadoweave warlock. What is the benifit of going with
>>either the scryers or aldors. I know i can look it up on thottbot or
>>wowwikki but i'd like some personal reasons for going with one or the
>>other
>
>Well it's entirely down to what you want out of the rewards - the best
>comparison is at
>http://www.wowwiki.com/Comparison_of...Scryer_rewards
>
>Personally, both of my warlocks are Scryers, but that was partly for
>outside reasons - my 70 lock was my 2nd tailor to be able to choose a
>faction, and my first tailor is Aldor so I wanted to be able to make the
>spelldamage spellthread too (among other reasons), while my second warlock
>is a blood elf so starts friendly with the Scryers by default and I didn't
>fancy the extra repgrind for Aldor (haven't actually selected faction as I
>need to be lvl 60 but I will go Scryers for sure).
>
>For warlocks the stuff to look at is mainly rewards; as a tailor you'll
>benefit more from Scryers as they have the spelldamage leg enchant recipe
>(Aldor have a healing one), but you might prefer the Aldor shoulder enchant
>which is more damage than crit, while Scryers has more crit.
>
>Itemswise Aldor have a blue staff and robe, but neither has much stamina
>on, so aren't ideal for a warlock... Scryers have an epic ring which is
>pretty nice plus a blue spellhit trinket, most use if you plan to raid but
>has uses in other situations too. I think I prefer the Scryers items as
>it's pretty easy to get better than the Aldor ones but it's just personal
>really.

thanks a lot you really put it in prespective for me. I put off
making this decision till i really have to.

thanks

On Dec 9, 10:00 pm, thadrix...@wow.com wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 03:32:05 +0000, Catriona R
>
>
>
> <catrionarNOS...@totalise.co.uk> wrote:
> >On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 19:12:13 -0800, thadrix...@wow.com wrote:
>
> >>I"m a lvl 70 shadoweave warlock. What is the benifit of going with
> >>either the scryers or aldors. I know i can look it up on thottbot or
> >>wowwikki but i'd like some personal reasons for going with one or the
> >>other
>
> >Well it's entirely down to what you want out of the rewards - the best
> >comparison is at
> >http://www.wowwiki.com/Comparison_of...Scryer_rewards
>
> >Personally, both of my warlocks are Scryers, but that was partly for
> >outside reasons - my 70 lock was my 2nd tailor to be able to choose a
> >faction, and my first tailor is Aldor so I wanted to be able to make the
> >spelldamage spellthread too (among other reasons), while my second warlock
> >is a blood elf so starts friendly with the Scryers by default and I didn't
> >fancy the extra repgrind for Aldor (haven't actually selected faction as I
> >need to be lvl 60 but I will go Scryers for sure).
>
> >For warlocks the stuff to look at is mainly rewards; as a tailor you'll
> >benefit more from Scryers as they have the spelldamage leg enchant recipe
> >(Aldor have a healing one), but you might prefer the Aldor shoulder enchant
> >which is more damage than crit, while Scryers has more crit.
>
> >Itemswise Aldor have a blue staff and robe, but neither has much stamina
> >on, so aren't ideal for a warlock... Scryers have an epic ring which is
> >pretty nice plus a blue spellhit trinket, most use if you plan to raid but
> >has uses in other situations too. I think I prefer the Scryers items as
> >it's pretty easy to get better than the Aldor ones but it's just personal
> >really.
>
> thanks a lot you really put it in prespective for me. I put off
> making this decision till i really have to.
>
> thanks

The longer you put it off the less useful the rewards will be since
you'll be getting better gear (I assume) through 5 mans, heroics and
pvp. Dont forget the shoulder enchants as part of the rewards. Scryer
one has crit, which isn't the greatest thing for an affliction lock.

thadrixorf@wow.com wrote:
> I"m a lvl 70 shadoweave warlock. What is the benifit of going with
> either the scryers or aldors. I know i can look it up on thottbot or
> wowwikki but i'd like some personal reasons for going with one or the
> other

Few possible reasons not mentioned in other posts:
Jumping from Scryer tier doesn't kill you, jumping from Aldors will.
Aldor tier has a nice shortcut to Nagrand
Scryer outpost in Shadowmoon Valley is very close to the Altar of
Shadows, where you need to do your Shadowcloth transmutes.

Not sure if any of these are really important reasons, but
just wanted to point out them too.


--
"Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on
society." -Mark Twain

Catriona R wrote:
> Personally, both of my warlocks are Scryers, but that was partly for
> outside reasons - my 70 lock was my 2nd tailor to be able to choose a
> faction, and my first tailor is Aldor so I wanted to be able to make the
> spelldamage spellthread too (among other reasons), while my second warlock
> is a blood elf so starts friendly with the Scryers by default and I didn't
> fancy the extra repgrind for Aldor (haven't actually selected faction as I
> need to be lvl 60 but I will go Scryers for sure).

AFAIK when you do the quest to choose between them, you'll get switched
automatically to the same level of "aldorness" as non-bloodelfs (and
vice versa for drenai and scryers).

Urs

--
Mano - Orc Shaman 70 - Mining & Axesmith
Blackhorns - Tauren Bear 70 - Skinning & Herbalism
Ratoma- Troll Rogue 28 - (Dis)Enchantress
Melony - Human Mage 16
and various others

<thadrixorf@wow.com> wrote in message
news:chbpl31ob7rphq2tspt33dt406foe5nuuu@4ax.com...
> I"m a lvl 70 shadoweave warlock. What is the benifit of going with
> either the scryers or aldors. I know i can look it up on thottbot or
> wowwikki but i'd like some personal reasons for going with one or the
> other
>
>
> TIA

just look at the shoulder enchants
everything else you can sort

> I"m a lvl 70 shadoweave warlock. What is the benifit of going with
> either the scryers or aldors. I know i can look it up on thottbot or
> wowwikki but i'd like some personal reasons for going with one or the
> other
>
>
> TIA

Screw the blue staff we're going for the epics
Epiccccs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeUhSjuhQYE

Scyers no doubt, an epic ring and a blue trinket with tons of +hit

On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:11:42 +0100, Urs Steiner <invalid@darkstone.ch>
wrote:

>Catriona R wrote:
>> Personally, both of my warlocks are Scryers, but that was partly for
>> outside reasons - my 70 lock was my 2nd tailor to be able to choose a
>> faction, and my first tailor is Aldor so I wanted to be able to make the
>> spelldamage spellthread too (among other reasons), while my second warlock
>> is a blood elf so starts friendly with the Scryers by default and I didn't
>> fancy the extra repgrind for Aldor (haven't actually selected faction as I
>> need to be lvl 60 but I will go Scryers for sure).
>
>AFAIK when you do the quest to choose between them, you'll get switched
>automatically to the same level of "aldorness" as non-bloodelfs (and
>vice versa for drenai and scryers).

Nope, you start about 3k further ahead/behind and it stays that way even
after doing the quest - my draenei priest was 3k ahead on Aldor rep after
doing the quest, while a draenei friend who went Scryers only got taken
into neutral, not friendly.
--
EU-Draenor:
Balgair - Human Rogue (lvl 70)
Naomh - Draenei Priest (lvl 70)
Rosad - Human Warlock (lvl 70)
Sealgair - Dwarf Hunter (lvl 70)
Sagart - Undead Priest (lvl 65)
Eilnich - Blood Elf Warlock (lvl 59)
Sgoildubh - Human Mage (lvl 53)
Beag - Dwarf Paladin (lvl 53)
Cathach - Gnome Warrior (lvl 30)

On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:42:54 -0000, "Geoff" <fooooooool@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
><thadrixorf@wow.com> wrote in message
>news:chbpl31ob7rphq2tspt33dt406foe5nuuu@4ax.com.. .
>> I"m a lvl 70 shadoweave warlock. What is the benifit of going with
>> either the scryers or aldors. I know i can look it up on thottbot or
>> wowwikki but i'd like some personal reasons for going with one or the
>> other
>>
>>
>> TIA
>
>just look at the shoulder enchants
>everything else you can sort

There's very little difference between the exalted enchants though.
--
EU-Draenor:
Balgair - Human Rogue (lvl 70)
Naomh - Draenei Priest (lvl 70)
Rosad - Human Warlock (lvl 70)
Sealgair - Dwarf Hunter (lvl 70)
Sagart - Undead Priest (lvl 65)
Eilnich - Blood Elf Warlock (lvl 59)
Sgoildubh - Human Mage (lvl 53)
Beag - Dwarf Paladin (lvl 53)
Cathach - Gnome Warrior (lvl 30)

On Dec 10, 8:08 am, Catriona R <catrionarNOS...@totalise.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:42:54 -0000, "Geoff" <foooooo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> ><thadrix...@wow.com> wrote in message
> >news:chbpl31ob7rphq2tspt33dt406foe5nuuu@4ax.com.. .
> >> I"m a lvl 70 shadoweave warlock. What is the benifit of going with
> >> either the scryers or aldors. I know i can look it up on thottbot or
> >> wowwikki but i'd like some personal reasons for going with one or the
> >> other
>
> >> TIA
>
> >just look at the shoulder enchants
> >everything else you can sort
>
> There's very little difference between the exalted enchants though.
> --
> EU-Draenor:
> Balgair - Human Rogue (lvl 70)
> Naomh - Draenei Priest (lvl 70)
> Rosad - Human Warlock (lvl 70)
> Sealgair - Dwarf Hunter (lvl 70)
> Sagart - Undead Priest (lvl 65)
> Eilnich - Blood Elf Warlock (lvl 59)
> Sgoildubh - Human Mage (lvl 53)
> Beag - Dwarf Paladin (lvl 53)
> Cathach - Gnome Warrior (lvl 30)

The exalted enchants still favor spell crit on scyers and spell damage
on aldor, though you still get a little bit of the other stat with
each. The honored enchant though is only one or the other and is
pretty cheap to buy. Having an easily accessible spel crit enchant
while leveling an affliction lock is pretty useless.

The scryers spellthread is obviously great for warlocks, but its not
BoP, so you can always get a scryers tailor to craft it for you.

But the ring and the trinket can't be matched on the Aldor side and as
other people have said, the Scryer's SMV flightpoint is just north of
the Alter of Shadows, making it convenient for shadoweave tailors.

My best pick for warlocks is still Scryers, especially if you are a
shadoweave tailor. Overall they offer more to a shadoweave tailoring
warlock than the Aldor do.

On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 20:55:41 -0800 (PST), Hornet <jforbes01@gmail.com>
wrote:

<snip>

>>
>> thanks a lot you really put it in prespective for me. I put off
>> making this decision till i really have to.
>>
>> thanks
>
>The longer you put it off the less useful the rewards will be since
>you'll be getting better gear (I assume) through 5 mans, heroics and
>pvp. Dont forget the shoulder enchants as part of the rewards. Scryer
>one has crit, which isn't the greatest thing for an affliction lock.


thats what my friend the mage did. The scryers have a trinket called
the scryers bloodgem that look pretty good till i reread it and its
not for me. so so far it looks like i'll go aldor but then i just
might stay neutral