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Old 04-01-2008, 03:47 PM
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Is it customary to heal yourself after a big fight in a dungeon or
wait for the healer to heal you? Also as a warlock is it rude to life
tap your mana back up and then not bandage/eat yourself?
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Old 04-01-2008, 03:53 PM
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On Apr 1, 11:47 am, sanyonebronzebe...@googlemail.com wrote:
> Is it customary to heal yourself after a big fight in a dungeon or
> wait for the healer to heal you? Also as a warlock is it rude to life
> tap your mana back up and then not bandage/eat yourself?


Always start with the courtesy of sitting to eat and drink yourself.
If you find you are wasting your food because the healer is always
healing you to full, then you can obviously stop eating, at least for
that healer.

For warlocks and life tap, take the same general rule. Life tap for
your mana, then start to heal yourself with bandages and food. If it
feels like you're wasting that stuff because everytime you do that the
healer heals you back, then stop.

Just use good judgement.
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Old 04-01-2008, 03:53 PM
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Default Re: Heals after battle in dungeon

sanyonebronzebeard@googlemail.com wrote:
> Is it customary to heal yourself after a big fight in a dungeon or
> wait for the healer to heal you? Also as a warlock is it rude to life
> tap your mana back up and then not bandage/eat yourself?


Depends on your group. If everyone knows each other and the healer isn't
going oom it can be quicker for a warlock to life tap and just have the
healer spend a small amount of mana to get them back to full health. I
don't mind doing that at all if I'm running with guildies and I'm
healing. 2 HoTs normally does it.

Just don't expect it if you're in a group with strangers, then the
polite thing is to heal yourself.
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Old 04-01-2008, 04:17 PM
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Default Re: Heals after battle in dungeon

On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:53:12 -0700 (PDT), lcpltom <lcpltom@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Apr 1, 11:47 am, sanyonebronzebe...@googlemail.com wrote:
>> Is it customary to heal yourself after a big fight in a dungeon or
>> wait for the healer to heal you? Also as a warlock is it rude to life
>> tap your mana back up and then not bandage/eat yourself?

>
>Always start with the courtesy of sitting to eat and drink yourself.
>If you find you are wasting your food because the healer is always
>healing you to full, then you can obviously stop eating, at least for
>that healer.
>
>For warlocks and life tap, take the same general rule. Life tap for
>your mana, then start to heal yourself with bandages and food. If it
>feels like you're wasting that stuff because everytime you do that the
>healer heals you back, then stop.
>
>Just use good judgement.


Yup, agreed. As a healer I'm happy to heal people if I have the mana, but I
appreciate if they show willing to help themselves too, and warlocks who
lifetap to low health repeatedly while making zero effort to help
themselves irritate me. When I play a lock I usually only lifetap 1-2 times
and if I have to go further will bandage myself, and only stop doing that
if I can see the healer is happy to help out.
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Old 04-01-2008, 04:21 PM
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<40162c17-a960-4b49-8a95-00fe12653fe2@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
sanyonebronzebeard@googlemail.com wrote:

> Is it customary to heal yourself after a big fight in a dungeon or
> wait for the healer to heal you? Also as a warlock is it rude to life
> tap your mana back up and then not bandage/eat yourself?


A good healer will actually tell you to life tap so they can help you
get back in the fight quicker, move the instance along, etc. But
healers vary.
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Old 04-01-2008, 09:14 PM
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Default Re: Heals after battle in dungeon

I only consider it rude if you get your heals and then hurry along
while I'm sitting and drinking.

Warlocks... I usually toss a renew on them. In BGs, it's funny to see
how often they don't life tap.
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Old 04-01-2008, 11:14 PM
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On Apr 1, 5:14*pm, BLMX <junkbin5...@comcast.net> wrote:
> I only consider it rude if you get your heals and then hurry along
> while I'm sitting and drinking.
>
> Warlocks... I usually toss a renew on them. *In BGs, it's funny to see
> how often they don't life tap.


why bother life tapping?

locks in BG = run out, fear bomb, get mauled by 736251788 hunters,
rinse repeat.
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Old 04-02-2008, 12:52 PM
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Default Re: Heals after battle in dungeon

sanyonebronzebeard@googlemail.com wrote:

>Is it customary to heal yourself after a big fight in a dungeon or
>wait for the healer to heal you? Also as a warlock is it rude to life
>tap your mana back up and then not bandage/eat yourself?


Simple really - as a rogue, if the healer throws a heal on me, then
I don't eat. If the healer sits down to drink, I'll sit down and
eat.

As a priest, it depends how much mana I have after the fight. If I
have enough mana I might throw a heal on those who need it and then
drink to top up, otherwise I'll just drink and expect those who need
it to eat/bandage and save time.

Don't just stand around an expect/demand a heal tho, that annoys the
heck of out healers.

Warlocks who lifetap themselves to the brink of death during a fight
are a pain in the ass since they'll then die if they take any hits.
If I have mana and time to spare, I'll heal them, but otherwise -
well it was their choice to burn all their health.

Warlocks who lifetap after a fight, I'd normally give them a Renew
(or other HoT) if I have the mana, otherwise they can eat/bandage
while I drink. Or in fact, they can just drink while I drink and not
need to lifetap at all...

Dan

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Old 04-02-2008, 01:38 PM
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Default Re: Heals after battle in dungeon

On Apr 1, 11:47*am, sanyonebronzebe...@googlemail.com wrote:
> Is it customary to heal yourself after a big fight in a dungeon or
> wait for the healer to heal you? *Also as a warlock is it rude to life
> tap your mana back up and then not bandage/eat yourself?


I'm a healer that is my job. If I see someone not topped off I heal
them. My mana regen is high enough where I probably will get the mana
back by the time the next pull starts.

But I will make an exception to healing if I see a pull starting
because if the heal is finishing right after the pull then I am the
one doing the pulling and not by choice. Same goes especially for
chain pulling.

Also I will try to be careful with popping a renew on someone close to
a new pull or a CC break or incoming pat as there is a chance that I
will be top on the list.

And to be safe I might counteract the heal with a fade if I notice
that tank getting jumpy just after I pop a renew up on someone.

Orion
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Old 04-02-2008, 02:18 PM
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On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 06:38:05 -0700 (PDT), Orion Ryder
<orionryder@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Also I will try to be careful with popping a renew on someone close to
>a new pull or a CC break or incoming pat as there is a chance that I
>will be top on the list.


If the renew lands before your target gets agro, every test I've done
tells me that the target of the renew is the one that gets credit for
the healing agro. Try this sometime; throw a renew on your tank and
ask him to agro some mobs without hitting them. The tank will keep
agro through the renew tics.

Rgds, Frank

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Old 04-02-2008, 02:59 PM
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Frank E <fakeaddress@hotmail.com> wrote:
> the healing agro. Try this sometime; throw a renew on your tank and
> ask him to agro some mobs without hitting them. The tank will keep
> agro through the renew tics.


I've pulled aggro with a pre-Renew... I've seen others report the same. I
think there's a tricky thing about it, depending on whether the priest
who cast the renew actually enters combat with the mob or not.

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Old 04-02-2008, 03:17 PM
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On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 14:59:24 +0000 (UTC), hume.spamfilter@bofh.ca
wrote:

>Frank E <fakeaddress@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> the healing agro. Try this sometime; throw a renew on your tank and
>> ask him to agro some mobs without hitting them. The tank will keep
>> agro through the renew tics.

>
>I've pulled aggro with a pre-Renew... I've seen others report the same. I
>think there's a tricky thing about it, depending on whether the priest
>who cast the renew actually enters combat with the mob or not.


That's possible. With the testing I did, the healer wasn't on the
agro list until after the renew wore off.

Rgds, Frank

 

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